THE SALTS FAMILY

Daphne Mary Salts was born 10 Mar 1936 in Lowestoft. She married Robin Charles Seaton on 18 Jul 1959 at Oulton Broad.

Arthur Ernest Salts was born 25 Feb 1903 at Rockferry. He married Ruby Kathleen Miller on 18 Sep 1933 at Lowestoft. He died on 28 Aug 1972 at Oulton Broad.

Gravestones

St Margarets Church, Lowestoft - Arthur Salts died 28 Aug 1972 aged 69 years.

Certificates

Albert Ernest Salts was born 19 Oct 1874 at Everton, Lancashire, to Thomas Salts, a painter and Susannah Martha Salts (née Tibbey) of 116 Great ? Street, Everton.

Thomas Salts of full age, bachelor, a plumber of Everton, son of Thomas Salts, bricklayer, was married to Susan Martha Tibbey, of full age, spinster, of Walton, daughter of John Tibbey, drainer, on 8 Feb 1872 at the parish church of Walton on the Hill. Both signed and the witnesses were Thos W Hebson? and M A Salts.

1881 Census

Dwelling: 116 Gt Homer St

Census Place: Everton, Lancashire, England

Source: FHL Film 1341876 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 3658 Folio 107 Page 1

Marr Age Sex Birthplace

Thomas SALTS M 27 M Everton Liverpool

Rel: Head

Occ: Plumber

Susan Martha SALTS M 32 F Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England

Rel: Wife

Occ: Housekeeper

Albert Edward SALTS 6 M Everton Liverpool

Rel: Son

Ada Florence SALTS 5 F Everton Liverpool

Rel: Daur

Reginald T. SALTS 1 M Everton Liverpool

Rel: Son

 

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The Genealogy of Leslie Thomas Salts

 

A study of the genealogical claims of L.T.Salts, late of the Wirral, Merseyside, carried out on behalf of other members of the Salts family by J A Jephcott in December 1987

 

Introduction

The late Leslie Thomas Salts is known to have carried out research into his genealogy. His findings indicated that he was directly descended from an Austrian Countess and, to add credence to this claimed link with nobility, he had this part of his genealogy endorsed by the College of Arms.

He subsequently became known as - Count Leslie Salts.

His claim that the Salts family of Lancashire were of noble descent was, understandably, of great interest to other members of the Snlts family, who also had an interest in their family history. However, rather thnn accepting L.T.Salts' claims at face value, they decided to carry out some corroberative research of their own.

This report details the various correspondence and documentary evidence that accompanied this secondary research.

Research Procedure

The investigation was commenced by questioning various members of the family as to what was known of the Salts family tree.

It should be noted that the family were very sceptical about Leslie's claims, and they had no knowledge of any foreign ancestry.

With this preliminary research done, it was decided that the next step would be to visit the General Record Office at St.Catherines House in London, to obtain the birth certificate for Albert Ernest Salts, to verify his date of birth and to discover his parentage.

This was done and the certificate showed the parents to be Thomas Salts, a painter, and Susannah Martha Tibbey. This gave no indication as to noble (or even foreign) connections, but then perhaps the occupation of Painter could have alluded to Thomas Salts being an artist, rather than a humble tradesman. In addition, the address given on the certificate did not indicate that the family lived a particularly affluent area.

Satisfied that we had the correct certificate, it was decided that the next step was to obtain the marriage certificate for Thomas Salts and Susannah Martha Tibbey. This was duly done and, this time, Thomas' profession was shown as a plumber. His father was Thomas Salts, a bricklayer.

Susannah's father was John Tibbey, a drainer.

Conflicting Evidence

The family had in it's possession a copy of a document produced by the College of Arms, entitled 'Honours in Confidence' and signed by Conrad Swan, Esquire, the York Herald of Arms and dated 14th March 1978. This item acknowledges that Leslie Thomas Salts was the grandson of Thomas Zedtwitz Saltz who in turn was the son of Wilhelm Zedtwitz Saltz who married the Countess Olga Clementine Paula Zedtwitz, the daughter of the Count Hugo von Zedtwitz of Austria.

This statement was based upon the said York Herald of Arms having studied, among other impressive genealogical sources, civil and religious records.

It was at this stage of our research that the picture became unclear.

Had we not studied civil records ourselves and arrived with the information that L.T.Salts was the grandson of Thomas Salts, a painter and plumber (both trades usually combined with glazier when the individual was apprenticed), who was the son of Thomas Salts, a bricklayer? Where was the Saltz spelling and the Zedtwitz name and why did we find great grandfather to be Thomas instead of Wilhelm?

Surely, the College of Arms could answer this and so we wrote to them, stating the information that we had found.

To our dismay, the answer came back that the comments in the 'Honours in Confidence' document were based on a private opinion only and that no independent research was done to prove the line of descent.

We acknowledged this reply and at the same time, feeling somewhat annoyed, questioned the wisdom of failing to do some independent checking. We received a curt reply.

We wrote to the Society of Genealogists to hopefully obtain an independent assessment of our amateur investigations, now in the firm belief that our Salts family had been the subject of a hoax, and who were really only descendants of humble folk.

Comments and Conclusions

The fact that no evidence has been held on record to substantiate the statement made by the College of Arms, nor that evidence of the type allegedly produced by L.T.Salts is known of within the family, leads us to conclude that the professionally endorsed genealogical information, should be viewed with great suspicion as to it's accuracy. Indeed, as our own research has revealed differing (but fully substantiated) information, leads us to further conclude that the College of Arms information is totally irrelevant to our Salts family of Lancashire.

It is our opinion that the College of Arms have lacked the professionalism that he would have expected of them in their dealings with uncle Les. Indeed, old Les was a bit of a rogue!

 

J A Jephcott

 

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